﻿<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><rss version="2.0"><channel><title>MysteriumFidei's Xanga</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/</link><description>Latest Xanga weblog from MysteriumFidei</description><language>zh</language><ttl>60</ttl><image><title>The Weblog Community</title><url>http://s.xanga.com/images/xangalogobutton.gif</url><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/</link></image><item><title>Wednesday, November 19, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/682857974/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/682857974/item/</guid><pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:03:48 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;font size="5"&gt;Omnia tempus habent et suis spatiis transeunt universa sub c&amp;#230;lo&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;When the change of seasons came at the end of summer, it hit me rather hard. Harder than it ever has in recent memory. And whilst this is probably due to a number of reasons, the one I can think of as having the most to do with it is air conditioning.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;You see, last winter, my previous car &amp;#8211; a 1999 Honda Civic &amp;#8211; was destroyed in a car accident that was not my fault. But the accident itself was so curiously crafted by fate that had any officer seen the results thereof (a smashed hood on my car and a scraped bumper on hers) he would immediately have assigned fault to me.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;So the woman who had charged across three lanes of traffic at a forty-five degree angle saw that she had perhaps done something wrong and agreed to let me pay her the small sum of money to cover the minor repairs on her bumper in lieu of waiting for a policeman to arrive. Incidentally, as fate would also have it, she worked across the street from me, and so gave me a ride to my office and I had the car towed to my mechanic.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;My mechanic is one of those guys who almost always can make something work for very little money. His invoice totals are always lower than his estimates, and he is known as one of the few completely honest mechanics in town. He runs a tight ship; his reputation is pristine. My throat dropped into my stomach when I heard him hesitate and then calmly tell me in his deep, southern voice, &amp;#8220;David, it&amp;#8217;s ugly.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;These are not the kind of words that Billy normally said. And if he did, things were bad. So I sold him the car for $450 for salvage and went to buy a new car of my own. And since I was not going to be getting an insurance cheque for this, the new car would have to come completely out of our savings. Not wanting to spend any more than I absolutely had to, I jumped on Craig&amp;#8217;s List and sought out the lowest of the low-cost, early-model cars.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Finally, I stumbled upon a perfect beauty: the quintessential model for A&amp;#8209;B transportation. Nothing could outdo this car in sheer simplicity. The ride was a 1987 Honda CRX, owned and tweaked for an entire year by a Kampuchean mechanic-to-be who was a good bit younger than the car itself. It had no radio, no rear wiper, no back seats, and most importantly, no air conditioning.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;None of that bothered me though because this car drove. And man, did it drive. The kid who owned it had turned this little machine into a low-flying hot-rod, and as far as I could tell, this car was a dream come true. So inasmuch as it was the beginning of a new era, it was just as much the end of the old.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;No more radio.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;No more CDs in the car.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;No more smooth rides with cruise control.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;And no more A/C.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Throughout the rest of the winter and springtime, this posed no problem, but when summer came upon us, my tune changed a little. I did not mind the lack of music. I used the time driving to think or to pray. The switch back to a 5-speed was a welcome change as well: you know, feeling more connected to the road and all. The lack of air conditioning had me squirming for a bit, though.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;But it did not take long before my body was acclimated to the new weather patterns. I rode everywhere with my windows down, and the sunroof open. I buzzed all my hair off, and left work with my gym clothes already on so that I would not dirty my office clothes. And after a while, I started to enjoy the summertime.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;No matter how early I left in the morning, the air was always humid and warm. Even leaving the house at six with the sun still down, still the air was still warm when I would leave. I got used to this, and planned for it. Indeed, it had become a part of my internal programming.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;And then it happened. It was not just sooner than I expected, it was also more dramatic.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;I gathered my lunch, my gym bag, stepped over to the door, blessed myself with holy water, and opened the door and stepped into the black morning. And I shivered. After four months of warm mornings with short-sleeved shirts, I did not ever give a thought that maybe summer might come to an end. But it did. It ended, and it ended fast.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Being of strong European stock, I actually enjoy cooler weather more than I enjoy warmer weather. But I was not upset by the cool air on my face; I was shocked into the realisation that the summer was over, and the change of season, whilst being more than welcome in terms of temperature, brought me face-to-face with my own mortality.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;I am now thirty years of age, which means that if I am fortunate, in ten years my life will be more than half-way over.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;And then one day you find ten years have got behind you&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i&gt;No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Ten years ago, I was driving around Atlanta with my friends watching movies, studying all through the wee hours of the morning at Waffle House, going to shows, trying to make it through advanced math, and most importantly, trying to figure out the best ways to purchase and store up large quantities of cigarettes and alcohol. I blink my eyes and suddenly I am married with five children, eight years engineering experience, and I am a Catholic. Does anybody care to tell me what happened? I am afraid that when I blink again, my children will all be married, I will be trying to get my pension payments, and I will still be stubbornly avoiding the doctor.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;A new season is here. The old one has ended. So too my season here with this blog is ended. Xanga was kind of a cool place, for a little while. I have made many friends here. I love all the people with whom I interact here. I am thankful to God for the wonderful relationships I now have thanks to this little site. I think specifically of all my Catholic friends who have come here and have helped me defend the faith, my Protestant brothers with whom I have shared so many good discussions, and even those Orthodox people that continue to confound me.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;For a while, Xanga was it. You had Paleocrat and Konfederado (Mr_Orthodox! ha, those were the days!), Kriegerwulff and Daveyh8, Br. Dominic and Ebrulf, Servitus, mister_jargon and on_bleeker_street,&amp;nbsp; vanwedgeworth, dasack, katieluther, tskerritt, anselm_the_presbyterian, and others. There was a time when this place was magical. I am tempted to quote Hunter Thompson, but I will not. Wait, yes I will.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0.5in 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;There was madness in any direction, at any hour. You could strike sparks anywhere.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0.5in 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right&amp;#8211;that we were winning. And that, I think, was the handle. That sense of inevitable victory over the forces of old and evil. Not in any mean or military sense&amp;#8211;we didn&amp;#8217;t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. We had all the momentum. We were riding the crest of a high, and beautiful wave.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0.5in 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look west. And with the right kind of eyes, you can almost see the highwater mark--that place where the wave finally broke, and rolled back. &amp;#8211; Hunter Thompson, &lt;i&gt;Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Xanga truly was a magical place and as much as it pains me to say it, the magic is gone.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Xanga has spent so much time trying to make itself like a ghastly hybrid of Facebook, Myspace, and Blogspot, and frankly I just want a place to write. So I have found a new place for myself at &lt;a href="http://davehodges.wordpress.com"&gt;davehodges.wordpress.com&lt;/a&gt;. Things will not be any different there; I still intend to write sporadically if I write at all. And I hope to stay in touch with many of you in the mean time. But the endless internet discussions are over. And I cannot stay here any longer. It just is not the same here any more, and I think the exodus that many of you have taken already is both the cause and effect of this loss of magic.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;For all of those that left positive feedback and encouraged me to keep writing even when I thought it was a lost cause, I thank you. For all of those who left negative feedback and encouraged me to keep writing even when it was a lost cause, I thank you. And for all of you seekers who wanted nothing more than an explanation of what I believe, thank you for the interest. To all who are reading this now, you are mortal. You will die one day. And what matters after you are dead is not how much money you made, what kind of house you lived in, nor who liked you the most. What will matter is the state of your soul, and how you spent the years that God gave you. Ask yourself frequently, &amp;#8220;Is what I am doing now helping me along my pathway to salvation, or hindering me?&amp;#8221; Times and seasons come and go, and your life is but a vapour of air, it is gone as soon as it starts. I hope this thought stays with you as I leave here, and I hope that it goes with me wherever I go.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;For those of you who knew me when this blog started, you know what I mean when I say, &amp;#8220;What a long strange trip it&amp;#8217;s been.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;Stay the course, keep the faith, and last but not least, Happy Truckin&amp;#8217;.&lt;/p&gt;  &lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;"&gt;Dave Hodges&lt;/span&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/682857974/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Saturday, September 13, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/674170067/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/674170067/item/</guid><pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:07:00 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;font size="3"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;preface&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;In many of my various discussions regarding the Roman Catholic
Church, I end up arguing points with folks from all backgrounds, including
everybody from the not-so-distant &amp;#8220;Orthodox&amp;#8221; to fundamentalist Baptist and
everybody in between. Few of these people still hold to the original doctrines
espoused by the so-called Reformers, but some do, and talking with them is
always interesting. In one of my recent discussions, I came across a nice
fellow who believed (along with the rest of the RPCNA) that the Pope is
Antichrist, and more specifically, the man of sin represented in St. Paul&amp;#8217;s
second epistle to the Christians in Thessalonica. He posed a challenge for me,
to wit: that I prove from Holy Writ alone that the Pope &amp;#8211; or, the succession of
Popes &amp;#8211; is not the &amp;#8220;man of sin&amp;#8221; spoken of therein. This alone, he explained,
was his reason for rejecting the Catholic Church. The following post is based
on my response to his challenge.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Hic est antichristus qui
negat Patrem et Filium&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;It must be said from the
outset that I cannot prove to anybody that the Pope, or that all the collective
bishops of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Rome&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; are not the singular &amp;#8220;man of sin&amp;#8221; mentioned in the Scriptures. The
reason for this is the same reason that nobody can prove to me that he is (or
they are), based on the Scriptures alone. One can offer his private opinion and
I can offer mine, but at the end of the day, each man retains the prerogative
of whom or what he will believe in terms of an interpretative scheme and why.
Since I have no control over that, whether or not I have proven anything,
always resides with the listener and with him alone. I might reverse the
challenge and make my opponent &amp;#8220;prove&amp;#8221; that the Church that Jesus established
was actually the many thousands of Protestant sects which would appear many
hundreds of years later; at the end of the day, I would be the sole judge of
whether or not he had proven this satisfactorily.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Secondly, proving that a
singular Pope (the text does say &amp;#8220;man&amp;#8221; and not &amp;#8220;men&amp;#8221;) is the man of sin is not
enough to disprove the claims of the Catholic Church since the Pope&amp;#8217;s being
Antichrist is certainly within the realm possibility. But more to the point,
proving that the Pope is Antichrist is not enough, in itself, to demonstrate
the claims of Protestantism. There are so many heretical sects (ones that even all
mainstream Protestants would consider heretical) that are also in stark
opposition to the Roman Catholic Church. The claim that the Pope is Antichrist
could be accepted by Coptic Christians, Eastern Orthodox, Mohammedans, Mormons,
Children of God, Swedenborgians, as well as many &lt;a href="http://www.nicenetruth.com/home/2008/05/krazy-kountry-p.html"&gt;rural fringe charismatic sects&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Thirdly, there is a
constant refrain that I hear regarding a great singular apostasy which is
prophesied by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;, and this apostasy is always accepted &amp;#8211; &lt;i style=""&gt;prima facie&lt;/i&gt; &amp;#8211; to be the corruption of the Roman Church. Yet history
records hundreds of apostasies, all of which most Christians would also
consider apostasies, to wit: Marcionism, Nestorianism, chiliasm, Donatism,
Montanism, Eutychianism, &amp;amp;c. Demonstrating that an apostasy in fact took
place does not prove &lt;i style=""&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; that
&amp;#8220;the apostasy&amp;#8221; was that of the Roman Catholic Church. And the truth is that neither
does it prove that Protestantism is the true religion. One must keep in mind
that there are hundreds of current Restorationist Christian sects, all of which
claim the exact same thing: that a great apostasy occurred within the Church, from which apostasy the Church would not recover for many centuries.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Saying that the Catholic
Church began the apostasy is not enough to make the greater case &amp;#8211; it must also
be demonstrated that whatever sect you happen to hold is the true one. And
there are thousands upon thousands of sects, all claiming to be the true restoration
of the Church &amp;#8211; the same Church which was destroyed or corrupted in the Roman Church.
Let me name a few of them: Iglesia Ni Cristo, the Boston Church of Christ, the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Church&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; of
Prophecy, the House of Yahweh, the Jehovah&amp;#8217;s Witnesses, Seventh-Day Adventists,
the Campellites and the Millerites, and Luz del Mundo. All of these sects make
the exact same claims as the Reformed Protestant, yet possess completely
different doctrinal standards. In the grand scheme of things, what is one more
sect amongst so many? For me even to give weight to one particular brand of Restorationist
Christianity, I then would have to evaluate every single sect that was ever
born of men. Why? Because if the Church fell once, she can fall again, and the
brand of Christianity that one accepts now may well undergo its very own
apostasy down the road, requiring yet another Reformation, where everything previously
thought to be true is shown actually to be false &amp;#8211; based on the Bible alone, of
course, or which ever books were decided still belong therein.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Specifically, what makes
the claim of the Lutherans valid, but not that of the Mohammedans, Mormons, or
Millerites? If one can entertain that the entire Church fell and nobody saw it
happen, then I can maintain that any other particular sect did fell as well and
then we would have to investigate the claims of every single Joe Schmoe who
came along with yet a new reading of the Scriptures. And why would we have to
do this? Precisely because we would believe in a Church that is capable of
teaching error. There would be no pillar or bulwark of the truth &amp;#8211; just we,
alone in the desert with our Bibles, yet without anybody to tell us how to read
them. This is, ultimately, the scenario being presented to me. All Protestants will
vehemently deny it, but there really is no way out of this. If a Reformation
can come along and undo everything before it &amp;#8211; or even ninety per cent &amp;#8211; then
another Reformation can come along and undo everything that the first one did.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;And now, given all the
aforementioned caveats, I will attempt to deal with the text at hand. The claim
is that &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; said that this Man of Sin would sit in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;temple&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; (i.e. the
church). Yet just because the Pope sits in the Church does not automatically
make him the culprit here. All Protestants &amp;#8211; indeed, all men of Christian
persuasion &amp;#8211; can be said to &amp;#8220;sit in the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;temple&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; of &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8221; as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Next, it is said that &amp;#8220;he would
claim to be God on earth.&amp;#8221; Yet many, many men have made this foolish claim. And
not many of these men who have made this claim have been Catholics, let alone
the Pope. There is no such teaching of the Catholic Church that the Pope is God
on earth. The teaching is that he is the Vicar of Christ, which is hardly the
same thing. He in a very real sense fills the same office as the Old Testament
prophet who would speak to kings and say, &amp;#8220;Thus saith the Lord.&amp;#8221; The prophet
was not claiming to be God on earth, but he did indeed act as God&amp;#8217;s mouthpiece
on earth. God uses mouthpieces all the time. Sometimes they are asses, and
sometimes they are angels. But they are all God&amp;#8217;s mouthpieces without taking
away from His ultimate Deity.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Finally, it is claimed
that this man of sin &amp;#8211; the Pope, as the theory goes &amp;#8211; &amp;#8220;leads the apostasy, a
falling away from the truth within the church.&amp;#8221; But there were numerous
accounts of these kinds of things, as I said above &amp;#8211; why single out the
Catholic Church, especially when Protestants by and large accept many of the
dogmas that were taught by the Popes and the Catholic Church &amp;#8211; even after this apostasy
supposedly took place?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The Scriptures tell us
specifically what the teaching of Antichrist would be, and no Pope has ever
taught what the Scripture says that Antichrist would teach, to wit: that Jesus
is not the Christ, denying the Father and the Son (cf. I John II:xxii). If a
culprit is to be found for this teaching, there are many people who did this in
the early days of the Church, and I have already named a few of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;The main problem with this
theory is that when I ask when it is that the Bishop of Rome became Antichrist,
nobody ever has a specific answer, yet St. Paul says that all this rumpus would
happen after a specific revolt followed by a singular revelation of a singular
man. Very well then, what was this specific revolt? In what year did it occur?
Who was the singular man, and whose identity was revealed of which the holy
text speaks? I ask this because these things cannot be identified, I find nothing
about the argument even remotely compelling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Now the first great revolt
that happened after &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; wrote his letter to the church in Thessalonica was the Jewish-Roman
war, a great revolt, after which Nero took power (&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;a&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; d&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;. 66). He ruthlessly persecuted
Christians, had the temple destroyed, and most certainly did see himself as a
deity on earth. His megalomania was even observed by the heathen of his day.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;And yet even after all of
this, there is nothing in the text to indicate that an office, or a succession
of popes is the singular &amp;#8220;man of sin&amp;#8221;. If one wishes to tell me which Pope it
was, or which it will be, then by all means let it be known.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;However, identifying which
Pope it was will only present a whole new set of problems for the argument.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Should one decide that the
Pope in A.D. 66 (St. Peter) was Antichrist, then that would not look too
appealing, especially since he wrote some of the books of the Bible. If you
pick his successor, St. Linus, that does not bode well either, because &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; speaks
well of St. Linus in his epistle to the Romans.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Suppose it be St. Xystus &amp;#8211;
and he did reign around the time of the revolt of Bar-Kochba &amp;#8211; but actually he
did not do anything particularly man-of-sin-like. All we know that he did was
to codify certain parts of the Mass. For instance, he did say that all the
people have to recite the Sanctus together after the Preface. But that is
hardly the behaviour for which we are looking in order to identify Antichrist. Then
there is Pope St. Victor (A.D. 180), but he stood up for the deity of Christ
Himself, and actually excommunicated a priest for denying it. By &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. John&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8217;s own
criterion, he fails to make the status of Antichrist.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;One might go all the way
to Pope St. Sylvester (as many often do, supposing that his name was actually &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Constantine&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;), but Sylvester
does not come after a large revolt. In fact, he and Constantine were around when
the Edict of Milan was passed, when Christianity was legalised. After that, there
is not a great deal to happen revolt-wise for a great season.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;And I would be remiss if I
did not mention that nearly all Protestants (and especially the Reformed type) accept
the &amp;#338;cumenical Councils at least up through the fifth century as being binding
for doctrinal orthodoxy. All this brings us pretty late in the game for this
great apostasy to have started.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;And yet, in the mean
while, hundreds of real, bona fide, historically-recorded apostasies had already
occurred, but I am to ignore those. No, not just ignore them, but I am to side
with the Catholic Church and accept her rulings at &lt;i style=""&gt;those&lt;/i&gt; junctures against those heretics. The Church slowly moves
along, condemns Arius and Mani and Donatus &amp;#8211; all well and good &amp;#8211; but then at
some point everything changes. Some huge cataclysmic event happens (but nobody
notices) and suddenly the Pope is Antichrist, the Catholic Church is full of
errors, and all of this happens to occur whilst evading recorded history and without
sparking schism. Or even discussion. It just happened. And then all the events that
led up to it and resulted from it were just washed down the Memory Hole.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;I am forever curious as to
where all the Bible-believing Christians were when this change took place. Did
they all just hop right along down the path of perdition behind the great Whore
of Babylon?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;None of it adds up. Even
so, I am willing to hear the various theories on this. I just cannot see how
this can make any sense when analysed with any depth whatsoever.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;But at the end of the day,
the most obvious thing that sticks out is that the Scriptures say &amp;#8220;man of sin&amp;#8221;
and not &amp;#8220;men of sin&amp;#8221;. The desire to turn the word &amp;#8220;man&amp;#8221; into the word &amp;#8220;men&amp;#8221; has
a specific name I learnt in my Protestant high school systematic theology class:
&lt;i style=""&gt;eisegesis&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/674170067/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Friday, August 22, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/671396681/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/671396681/item/</guid><pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:34:15 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Rescindentes verbum Dei per traditionem vestram&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;The &lt;a href="http://weblog.xanga.com/Paleocrat_etc/"&gt;Paleocrat&lt;/a&gt;, my good friend, brother in Christ,
and godfather of my youngest daughter, has been doing a series of posts on a
highly revered twentieth century Protestant apologist, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornelius_Van_Til"&gt;Cornelius van Til&lt;/a&gt;. You
can find &lt;a href="http://weblog.xanga.com/Paleocrat_etc/tags/vantil/"&gt;those posts&lt;/a&gt; on his website. For my many years as a Protestant, I
always greatly respected Cornelius van Til and found him to have discovered
some of the greatest defences of Christianity. Indeed, I still argue for the
Christian faith based on &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presuppositional_apologetics"&gt;the general principles that he formulated&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;But one aspect of van Til&amp;#8217;s apologetic to which I
was never exposed was his specific set of arguments for Protestantism, over and
against the Catholic Church. I did not know anything about these at all until
my aforementioned acquaintance began doing a series on his discussions of the
Catholic faith. It was then that my opinion of him dropped considerably. Not
only was van Til&amp;#8217;s scholarship incredibly poor, but what became apparent to me
so clearly was his absolute inability to articulate the teachings of the
Catholic faith in any intelligible way. It was as if he heard what Catholics
believed from B. B. Warfield, who learnt about Catholicism from C. H. Spurgeon,
who learnt about the Roman Church from Ellen G. White, &amp;amp;c.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;I was somewhat disappointed. I used to think of van
Til as a confused, but honest Christian apologist. Now, I hardly can consider
him anything other than yet another example of Protestantism&amp;#8217;s endless supply
of ignorant revolutionaries. And amidst all his blunders about Catholicism,
comes this massive whopper of a statement that the Catholic Church &amp;#8220;knows of no
absolute authority such as Protestantism has in its doctrine of Scripture.&amp;#8221;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;What?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;It is so incredibly laughable that a Protestant like
van Til could be so ignorant as to utter such nonsense. Has he never heard of
the infallibility of the Church? The immutability of Catholic dogma? The
universal jurisdiction of the Pope? The necessity of accepting the Church&amp;#8217;s
dogmatic definitions under the pain of mortal sin and the loss of eternal
salvation? Has he seriously never encountered the authoritative statements
coming from the Magisterium of the Holy Roman Church?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;But suppose that maybe he was only trying to make a
rhetorical statement. Maybe he is making a deeper statement about the
unchangeable nature of Scripture and its unbending rule in contradistinction to
his understanding of Catholic dogma which appears to him to be capricious and
based on the whims of men &amp;#8211; subject to all forms of change depending on all
manner of circumstances. Indeed, maybe that is his point. But if we were to
press this issue, what would we find?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Well, for one, we would see that giving Scripture
alone this much authority does nothing to establish any sort of objective
system of morality or dogma. As if this even needed to be stated, one man&amp;#8217;s
heresy is another man&amp;#8217;s dogma, and they could both be looking at the exact same
texts when coming to their conclusions.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;In the beginning of any apologetic discussion, the
more hard core Reformed Protestants will always try strongly to impress their
opponent regarding the absolute authority of the Scriptures and how expansive
and demanding it is. But at the end of a long discussion when the problems with
this model are pressed, he usually ends up making the ridiculous claim that
&amp;#8220;the Church&amp;#8221; is actually comprised of so many thousands of Protestant sects,
and that none of them actually have the full truth regarding the teachings of
Holy Writ. Indeed, when one accepts that none of these thousands of sects that
all supposedly comprise the Church agree on what the Scriptures principally
teach, he must then admit that one need not even interpret the Scriptures
correctly for salvation.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Some great authority indeed! &amp;#8220;The Scriptures are the
only infallible rule!&amp;#8221; the revolutionary shouts.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;But at the end of the day, nobody cares about this
infallible rule, because it does not matter what anybody thinks the Scriptures
teach. Take the doctrine of Holy Baptism, which the Bible says is a basic,
rudimentary doctrine of the Christian faith (cf. Hebrews VI:ii). Do you believe
that you should baptise babies? Think they should wait until they are adults?
Should you use the Trinitarian formula? Use only the name of the Lord Jesus?
Should baptism be done by immersion or by sprinkling? Does baptism regenerate?
Should you confess your sins committed before baptism? Is baptism necessary for
salvation? Who can baptise validly, a minister only or a layman as well? What
is the function of baptism in the life and salvation of a soul?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;The kicker to this is that the answer to any of
these questions could be whatever you want them to be and a Protestant will
say, &amp;#8220;No big deal.&amp;#8221; So the Scriptures are the only infallible rule, but it does
not matter what you think they actually say or mean. The only thing that
matters is if you believe that the Scriptures are the only authority. This is
tantamount to Parliament saying that every man may do whatever he wants as long
as he believes his actions have been warranted by British law.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;*&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; *&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; *&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;stands before the bench
between the officers of the court.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Sir, you have
been accused of robbing a pub at gunpoint. The law condemns such actions with
severe penalties.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: I did no such
thing. And I care not what penalties the law may have. I&amp;#8217;m innocent of all such
accusations. Besides, the law is just a human construct anyway.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: The court will
hear the testimonies of th&amp;#8211; What have you said about the law?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: I only was
making a statement in passing, your Worship. I am innocent of the charges that
have been brought against me.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Your questioning of the law shall not go unpunished. At this
point, I no longer care about the paltry robbery charges. If you were guilty,
you would have to pay a stiff fine, but a denial of the absolute authority of
the law is a capital offence.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: But I&amp;#8217;ve
committed no crime!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Your rejection
of the law as the only absolute authority is your crime. Off with his head!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant i&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt; &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;is escorted out by the
officers of the court.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant ii&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;
&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;approaches the bench.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Sir, you freely
admitted to a constable that you murdered a man in cold blood.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant ii&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Yes, your
Worship, I did. But I believe that the law allows me to do so with immunity.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;judge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: Ah, yes. Well,
you&amp;#8217;ve a point, sire; I previously thought, based on your actions, that you
rejected the law altogether. It seems that you do in fact affirm the authority
of the law after all. You are free to go, good man.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;defendant ii&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;: God save the
Queen.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: center;" align="center"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;*&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; *&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; *&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;It has always been somewhat of a stumper for me. The
Protestant will say that he is not a Catholic and believes the Catholic Church
to be a false Church because she teaches error, but then will go on tolerating
the most absurd errors in the world from every Protestant sect not his own (and
sometimes from his own as well) on the grounds that doctrines do not matter
anyway, provided that they believe the Bible is the sole authority. Some
authority indeed. The Word of God is nullified by their traditions.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/671396681/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Tuesday, July 29, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/668158994/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/668158994/item/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:48:38 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Nolite dare sanctum canibus neque mittatis margaritas vestras ante porcos&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;I have not had much opportunity lately to
write, nor have I had occasion to do so since we have mined out so many
apologetic topics here. In fact, the myriads of equestrian corpses with &lt;i&gt;post
mortum&lt;/i&gt; blunt trauma wounds are stacked so high that it is likely to drive
away all but the most determined apologist, Catholic or Protestant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;But recently, I have seen something come up
more than once which really drives me to ire and is something I have decided to
address. The broader topic is the Catholic practise of closed communion,
something that has been practised in the Church since the earliest days. And in
spite of the many objections often made by Protestants, the fact is that all
but the tiniest minority of Protestants practise it. Protestants will not
hesitate to bar Mormons, Jehovah&amp;#8217;s Witnesses, Mohammedans, &amp;amp;c. from their
table. True, most Protestants would allow fellow Protestants to commune with
them, but they all (with the exception of the extremely liberal Episcopalians)
draw the line somewhere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Nevertheless, these same Protestants, when
confronted with the Catholic practise of closed communion, object vehemently,
insisting that all Christians should be allowed to take the Sacred Host at a
Catholic Mass. What is their reasoning? Most of them insist that we are all
part of the same religion and therefore should all share the same Sacraments.
Following this line of reasoning, all baptised peoples should be equally
admitted at everybody&amp;#8217;s version of the Eucharist, be they Baptist, Methodist,
Episcopalian, Catholic, Orthodox, &amp;amp;c.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;But from the earliest days of the Church,
there were many people who possessed valid baptisms who were denied the
Catholic Sacraments for their unreconciled public sins or their association
with hereticks or schismatics. The ancient teaching of One, Holy, Catholick,
and Apostolick Church is foundational to understanding this. Not everybody who
is baptised is automatically in the Church regardless of what he believes or
does. And despite what the Protestant and Catholic false &amp;#339;cumenists say, the
Catholic religion and the Protestant religion are not the same religion. As if
this needed demonstration, here are a list of things that the few Protestants I
have in mind most assuredly reject in the teachings of the Catholic Church:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;We declare, say, define, and
     pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human
     creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff. [&lt;i&gt;Unam Sanctam&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;We declare, pronounce and define
     that the doctrine which holds that the Blessed Virgin Mary, at the first
     instant of her conception, by a singular privilege and grace of the
     Omnipotent God, in virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, the Saviour of
     mankind, was preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin, has been
     revealed by God, and therefore should firmly and constantly be believed by
     all the faithful. [&lt;i&gt;Fulgens Corona&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;We teach and define that it is a
     dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra,
     that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all
     Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a
     doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by
     the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of
     that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church
     should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that
     therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not
     from the consent of the Church irreformable. [&lt;i&gt;Pastor &amp;#198;ternus&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;There is one Universal Church of the
     faithful, outside of which there is absolutely no salvation. In which
     there is the same priest and sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood
     are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the forms of bread
     and wine; the bread being changed (&lt;i&gt;transsubstantiatio&lt;/i&gt;) by divine
     power into the body, and the wine into the blood, so that to realize the
     mystery of unity we may receive of Him what He has received of us. And
     this sacrament no one can effect except the priest who has been duly
     ordained in accordance with the keys of the Church, which Jesus Christ
     Himself gave to the Apostles and their successors. [&lt;i&gt;Fourth Lateran
     Council&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;By the authority of our Lord Jesus
     Christ, of the Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, and by our own authority,
     we pronounce, declare, and define it to be a divinely revealed dogma: that
     the Immaculate Mother of God, the ever Virgin Mary, having completed the
     course of her earthly life, was assumed body and soul into heavenly glory.
     [&lt;i&gt;Constitution Munificentissimus Deus&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;An indulgence is a remission before
     God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been
     forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under
     certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as
     the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the
     treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints. [&lt;i&gt;Catechism of
     the Catholic Church&lt;/i&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Now these doctrines are not mere side
issues. These doctrines are central to salvation, dogma, truth, and the person
of Christ. These are issues over which Catholics and Protestants disagree
substantially and cannot be brushed aside as irrelevant or unimportant. One
question immediately comes to mind. Why in the world would a Protestant who
denies such things vociferously even want to have Sacraments from a religion
who believed and taught all of these things, and taught that they must be
believed for salvation?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;One such Protestant, &lt;a href="http://www.aminor.us/" target="_new"&gt;Jon Amos&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.thecedarroom.org/archives/002814.html" target="_new"&gt;writes&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;I tend to think as charitably as
possible of [Catholics]&amp;#8230;to the extent that I try to forget that there are
actually Catholics out there, like you, who zealously cling to the worst and
most dangerous-to-body-and-soul of Catholic errors.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Of course, part of being a Catholic is
believing what the Catholic Church teaches. If I wanted to be a Protestant, I
would not have gone through the trouble of being reconciled to the Church.
According to Mr. Amos, however, the only truly &lt;i&gt;faithful&lt;/i&gt; Catholics are
those who reject the Church&amp;#8217;s teachings. For more on this, read his comment
&lt;a href="http://mattyonke.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/the-pillar-and-ground-of-truth/#comment-38" target="_new"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Mr. Amos continues:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;That said, my position is &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8211;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; and has
been for some time &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8211;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt; that Holy Communion is what it is, regardless of what
Catholics say it is or believe it to be. And it&amp;#8217;s for this reason that I
receive without hesitation whenever I go to a Catholic Mass (rare as that may
be). I know it&amp;#8217;s against the rules, but the rules are against Jesus&amp;#8217;s rules, so
screw them. I also know that there are probably folks there (including even
maybe the priest) who, like you, are wilfully committing idolatry, but that
doesn&amp;#8217;t make the Mass idolatry, just as an idolater performing Holy Baptism
doesn't make the Baptism idolatry.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;It is hardly even believable. This man
obviously has little respect for the Catholic faith, less respect for Catholics
who actually take their faith seriously, and finally, no respect for the laws
of the Church. Now I ask you, why would any such soul who had so much scorn for
the Catholic Church want anything to do with the Catholic Mass? Let us suppose
that Jon Amos is correct and that the Catholic Church teaches bad and dangerous
&amp;#8220;body-and-soul&amp;#8221; heresies, and that Catholics are idolaters as he believes.
Where does Jesus ever say that you should involve yourself in the rituals of
idolatrous hereticks?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;He does not believe what the Catholic
Church teaches, neither about herself, nor about the Sacraments, nor about
salvation, nor about anything. Yet he insists that the Catholic Mass is &amp;#8220;Jesus&amp;#8217;
meal&amp;#8221; and that both he and every other soul on the planet are entitled to eat
it. Why does he even think it is the same religion as his? On a side note, I
wonder why he just does not become Catholic if the &amp;#8220;faithful&amp;#8221; Catholics reject
the Church&amp;#8217;s teachings? Of course, I know why &amp;#8211; he does not believe the
teachings of the Church and obviously acknowledges the folly of joining a
religion with which you do not agree. So why he continues to insist that the
Catholic Church is the same religion as his is beyond me. By his own words,
they are not even close.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;If my church is celebrating the meal
that Jesus instituted for His whole church and you can&amp;#8217;t receive with us, our
divisions are being deepened, not healed. Our Lord has given us this wonderful
sacrament - a meal that is (among many other things) powerfully, mysteriously
unifying, but, no, we know better than Him. What a shame. If it's Jesus&amp;#8217; meal
for all of His people, and if we recognize one another as brethren, we must be
able to commune together.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;This is what continues to baffle me. The
Catholics do not think that you are part of His people, and historically
Protestants have denied that Catholics are part of His people. There is one
tiny minority here, a veritable church-of-one that has asserted his own
authority in all these matters, declaring that what he believes and only what
he believes are &amp;#8220;Jesus&amp;#8217; rules&amp;#8221; and that all others are guilty of dividing the
Church.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;What the Catholics think of the Sacrament
is extremely different from what he thinks it is, yet he continues to insist
that they are really the same. And amidst all this inane double-talk is the
absurd claim that everything he is espousing is really Jesus&amp;#8217; teaching.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Yet Mr. Amos &lt;a href="http://www.thecedarroom.org/archives/003256.html" target="_new"&gt;insists&lt;/a&gt;, against every
rational cue:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8230;if the priest won&amp;#8217;t serve me, I&amp;#8217;ll go
get in another line, mumbling to myself, &amp;#8220;Bullshit. This is not your table,
man. This is Jesus&amp;#8217; table.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;One thing here is for sure: it is not your
table either, Mr. Amos. The priest who denies you the Sacred Host is merely
being faithful to his bishops and to his Church. By your theft of the Host, you
are not being faithful to anyone or anything other than your own precepts,
which have no place in the history of the Church and no place in Catholic
theology.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;I do not expect you to become Catholic, or
to change your position on the Church, or anything else. But if the Catholic
Church does not allow you to receive her Sacraments because you are not
Catholic, the absolute very least you could do is show some decency and some
respect for the Church. Your ecclesial community probably does not allow its
own share of things in its liturgy. I would never dream of showing up to
disrupt your worship in any way, or do things contrary to what your sect
allows. I may not agree with anything which your sect does, but interfering
with another person&amp;#8217;s religion is just rude.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;Stealing the hosts may make you a
progressive in your own mind, but it does nothing to further Church unity. If
you want unity in the Church, pray for unity and encourage your bishops to seek
dialogue with the Catholic Church. Please do not profane Catholic Sacraments as
a means to unity. There are legitimate means to promote unity amongst
Christians. This is not one of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/668158994/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Tuesday, June 03, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/659983350/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/659983350/item/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:19:09 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="Paragraph"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;"&gt;Preface&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font style="font-style: italic;" size="2"&gt;I originally hesitated to write this post because
the subject of the post is so sensitive and the one to whom I am responding in
this post is a man I love and cherish very much, my father-in-law, Rev. Steve
Schlissel from New York. If he does decide to read this, he should know that
this post is written by somebody who not only loves him dearly, but admires him
and looks up to him for many of his character traits. So whilst nothing is
intended to be given or taken personally, it is inevitable that some may see it
this way. Nevertheless, I write this with a spirit of charity and not
hostility. I do disagree with him vehemently, but that should say nothing of my
opinion of him personally.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h3 style="font-weight: normal;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Benedicta tu in mulieribus et benedictus fructus ventri tui, Jesus&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/h3&gt;

&lt;p class="Paragraph" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;In &lt;a href="http://www.schlissel.com/blog/?p=36" target="_new"&gt;a recent post on his blog&lt;/a&gt;, Rev. Schlissel writes
at length about the Roman Catholic &amp;#8220;idolatry&amp;#8221; of Mary. He asserts that if Mary
were to be included in the Godhead &amp;#8211; a &amp;#8220;Quadrinity&amp;#8221; he calls it &amp;#8211; that nothing
in all of Roman Catholic faith or practise would change. Either he is grossly
ignorant of the actual practise of the Church, or this is simply inflated
rhetoric. I cannot imagine him to be so ignorant of Catholic worship on this
matter, so I will assume that it is just rhetoric. And as a rhetorical device,
it conveys that he thinks that we honour Mary too much, and that is
understandable from his perspective, but for those who actually are ignorant of
Catholic practise, there are some things they ought to know.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;The Mass, which is the highest form of worship for Catholic Christians,
has only one object: the Holy Trinity. In the Novus Ordo Miss&amp;#230;, Mary is
mentioned only twice: in the Confiteor (along with a list of other saints and
apostles) and in the Nicene Creed. Surely nobody could object to those things.
Even in the Traditional Latin Mass, Mary is mentioned only six times, once in
the Nicene Creed, and all other five times she is listed with groups of other
saints. She is absent from the Roman Canon, absent from any invocation of the
Holy Trinity, and absent from the Eucharistic liturgy altogether.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;So to say that nothing would change if she were part of the
&amp;#8220;Quadrinity&amp;#8221; is utter nonsense. It would change so much of the Catholic
practise that I cannot even imagine where to start. Even the Rosary would have
to change since no longer would we be asking for Mary&amp;#8217;s intercessions, but
rather praying the &amp;#8220;Our Mother&amp;#8221;.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;His claim is that Catholics worship Mary, and in a sense this is
absolutely correct. There is a sense in which it is not correct, but that does
not take away from the fact that there is a sense in which it is. The word
worship means simply to render to that which is worthy. King David was
worshipped by one of his subjects in this passage from the Bible:&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBlockText" style="text-align: justify; margin-left: 40px;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;And going out he worshipped
the king, bowing with his face to the earth, and said: Wherefore is my lord the
king come to his servant? And David said to him: To buy the thrashing floor of
thee, and build an altar to the Lord, that the plague, which rageth among the
people, may cease. (II Kings XXIV:xxi)&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText2"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Are we to understand that this man idolised David or
merely that he rendered the honour which was due to him? Clearly the latter is
the case. The virtuous woman is to be praised (Proverbs XXXI:xxx), and what
woman on earth possessed as much virtue as the Mother of God? Is it not fitting
then, to worship her the same way that Gabriel did when he saw her and called
her blessed amongst women?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Something here ought to be said about the Protestant&amp;#8217;s understanding of
worship. A Protestant accuses a Catholic of idolatry because we honour Mary in
the same way that they honour God. Why is this? It is because for the
Protestant, his highest form of worship involves sitting on his posterior for
two hours whilst a man takes centre stage, and talks about his views of the
Bible for seventy-five minutes, followed by a song or two and maybe the passing
of a collection plate. And that is it. The Protestant will have no problem
telling you that he has no altar, no sacrifice, no incense, no nothing. Just a
long time of listening to a man in a business suit talk about his opinions. And
that is their highest form of worship.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Since we might honour Mary with things slightly more glorious and
substantially less boring than that, we are accused of idolatry. But the Mass,
the highest form of Catholic worship, is reserved for God alone, and for nobody
else. And it is a sacrifice on an altar to the Most High God &amp;#8211; if anyone dared
to do this for Mary, he would be rightly accused of idolatry. But has any
Catholic ever done this? Ever? Not to my knowledge. Based on the anecdote
provided, I see no idolatry, only devotion and love.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Take a moment and look at a common way of honouring men in our culture.
Suppose a man serves for fifty years as a distinguished professor at a
prestigious academic institution, and upon his retirement, his fellows throw a
grand ball in his honour. One might imagine a time of socialisation in the main
hall, followed by the singing of the Alma Mater, a few short speeches by his
closest colleagues, a long keynote address, a time for a collection to his
charitable foundation, and ending with a round of &amp;#8220;For He&amp;#8217;s a Jolly Good
Fellow&amp;#8221;. And all of this would be entirely appropriate for a man of great
accomplishments. And it differs little &amp;#8211; if it indeed differs at all &amp;#8211; from the
Protestant concept of worship.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;So Rev. Schlissel has been to a May Crowning. What sacrifice was given
to Mary? None at all. Was she blessed and praised for her virtue? I should hope
so, as that would be a fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Yet, notice the flurry
of criticism even when she is honoured as the Bible says that she should be
honoured. From whence does this irrational hatred of our Mother come?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;So whilst he is shaking his
head wondering where we Romanists get off honouring the Blessed Mother, we
shake our own heads at the myriad displays of ahistorical belief and practise
within the Protestant sects.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Finally, regarding the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Salve
Regina&lt;/span&gt;, one of his commentators said that the prayer was Christocentric. To
which he replied, &amp;#8220;However, the veracity of your own claim about the
Christocentric nature of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Salve Regina&lt;/span&gt; is doubted. In support, I will
simply include the English translation in which Christ is incidental and at
best an indirect object.&amp;#8221;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Hail, holy Queen,
Mother of Mercy,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;our life, our
sweetness and our hope.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;To thee do we cry,
poor banished children of Eve;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;to thee do we send
up our sighs,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;mourning and weeping
in this valley of tears.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Turn then, most
gracious advocate,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;thine eyes of mercy
toward us;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;and after this our
exile,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;show unto us the blessed
fruit of thy womb, Jesus.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;O clement, O loving,
O sweet Virgin Mary.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportEmptyParas]--&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;V: Pray for
us O holy Mother of God,&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;R: that we
may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoBodyText" style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Actually, the indirect object
of the central petition of the &lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;Salve Regina&lt;/span&gt; is the faithful, whilst the
direct object is Christ: &amp;#8220;[Mary, subject] Show unto us [the faithful, indirect
object] the blessed fruit of thy womb Jesus [direct object].&amp;#8221; The prayer is
highly Christocentric. The entire purpose for Marian devotion is summed up
beautifully in this wonderful hymn: we follow Mary so that we may be led to
Christ, just as St. Paul said to the church in Corinth: &amp;#8220;Be ye followers of me,
as I also am of Christ.&amp;#8221; He followed Christ, and he hoped that others would
follow Him to reach the same goal. Is it such a stretch to see that our Blessed
Mother, like all mothers, functions to lead her children to Jesus?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/659983350/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Sunday, April 27, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/654318662/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/654318662/item/</guid><pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:58:12 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Preface&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;After a long and somewhat fruitful Lenten season (and now more than
half-way into Paschaltide), I feel that I am now able to return to some serious
writing here. Some of you have expressed interest that I continue writing,
whilst I have &amp;#8211; on many occasions &amp;#8211; considered closing down this place. I think
that in the long run, I will keep it going, though I cannot say how often I
will post something. In the post below, I am mostly speaking to Catholics,
since they, of all Christians, oftentimes&lt;span style=""&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/span&gt;give me the hardest time about certain issues. But I also have some
Protestants in mind who may, because of the perspectives of these Catholics, be
confused about what is required of a Catholic.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Omnia
ergo qu&amp;#230;cumque dixerint vobis servate et facite secundum opera vero eorum
nolite facere dicunt enim et non faciunt&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Part of being a Catholic
is communion with the Bishop of Rome. Part of being a Catholic is believing
that he is infallible when he addresses the whole Church on matters of faith
and morals. Part of being a Catholic, or at least being a good Catholic, is rendering
obedience to the Pope and to the bishops of your diocese. And part of being
Catholic is respecting the offices of those ecclesiastical officials of the
hierarchy, even if we do not have much respect for those people holding them.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;These concepts have long
been part of the Catholic understanding of the Church. In the fourth century &amp;#8211;
in a time probably not unlike our current situation &amp;#8211; there were those who saw
the rampant impiety on the part of the members of the Catholic Church. They
wanted a purer Church &amp;#8211; a Church that followed through in real life what they
believed on paper. In short, they wanted a Church without sinners. These people
were called Donatists, and they believed that a priest&amp;#8217;s Sacraments were only
as good as his personal piety.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Now I have no doubt that
the Donatists were mostly very pious people. I have no doubt that their
intentions for the Church were very noble. But by confusing the offices with
the officers, they made a grave error and left the Church because of their
obstinacy in refusing to recognise this error. The fatal error of the Donatists
was that the true author of the Sacraments is not the priest or the bishop, but
Christ Himself. The priest is only the intermediate vessel of God&amp;#8217;s grace.
Sacraments are valid based on the office of the priest which, being established
by Christ, is holy and sacred. Those holding the office have the power and
authority to confect Sacraments in the name of Christ regardless of whether or
not they are pious men.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;In no way am I justifying
the impiety of certain priests or bishops. But if my child were to receive a
baptism from a sodomite priest, it would be a valid baptism. If my children
were to be confirmed by a simoniac bishop, it would still be a valid
confirmation. And if I received viaticum and final absolution from a liberal
priest who believed in women&amp;#8217;s ordination and abortion, it would be valid,
assuming that his orders were valid.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Many have noted recently
that I am highly critical of many members of the hierarchy of the Holy Roman
Church. Indeed I am and I am not ashamed of it. Some wonder how I can truly
consider myself to be a Catholic and still be so critical of my local ordinary
bishop, the priests in my diocese, the American cardinals, and the Pope
himself. The short answer to all of this is that nothing in Catholic teaching
demands that Catholics approve of the actions of the hierarchy in order to be
good Catholics.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;You might expect that
those who pester me the most about this are Protestants, but actually it is
Catholics. I hear very frequently that I am guilty of misinterpreting the
actions of the Pope, or not extending charity to the bishops, or misjudging
their intentions. And these might all be true. I do not think they are, but I
am certainly willing to grant that they might be. I am certainly not above making
these errors. But Catholics &amp;#8211; of all people &amp;#8211; ought to know better. I cannot
tell you how many times I have heard the phrase &amp;#8220;more Catholic than the Pope&amp;#8221;
directed toward people who would dare to criticise anything the Pope ever did.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;One prime example is how
three of the last four Popes have had amazing penchants for praying with people
of false religions in pagan temples, praying with anti-Christs in synagogues,
celebrating pagan ceremonies, and engaging in idolatrous acts of animal worship
with priestesses. All of these things are forbidden, immoral, and scandalous.
And they ought be even more severely condemned if of all people the Pope is the
one doing them. The Second Vatican Council did not suddenly authorise people to
go into places of worship belonging to false religions. And just because the
Pope did it does not make it right.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;It is at this point that I
hear somebody throw out the aforementioned phrase, accusing me of thinking that
I am more Catholic than the Pope, or that I am misunderstanding his &amp;#339;cumenical
gestures.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;What possessed people to
start unquestioningly accepting everything the Pope does as moral? I am not
familiar with any part of Catholic tradition that includes this bizarre
precept. How is it that so many people have forgotten about all the examples in
the Sacred Scriptures and in history of saints rebuking Popes (to the face,
even) and being recognised later on by the Church as great saints and warriors
for Christ? Did not St. Paul rebuke the very first Pope because of his sin? Are we not thankful
to St. Iren&amp;#230;us for respectfully telling Pope St.&amp;nbsp;Victor to refrain from
excommunicating the eastern sees? Is not St. Catherine of Sienna venerated for
her unwavering stand against a Pope who refused to leave&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt; Avignon? &lt;/font&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;I shudder to think of what
Catholics who practically worship the current Pope would have been like at the
time surrounding the Protestant Reformation. As soon as news hit the press that
Alexander VI had multiple illegitimate children with several women, these
people would be the first to celebrate the &amp;#8220;&amp;#339;cumenical gestures&amp;#8221; that he was
giving to these women. Perhaps they would look down on people who chose to be
faithful to their wives, or priests who kept their vows of celibacy and would
have accused them of being &amp;#8220;more Catholic than the Pope.&amp;#8221; Who knows?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;If it is a mortal sin for
Catholics to pray with people of false religions, then it is a sin for a Pope
to do it. Indeed, it is even a greater sin for a Pope to do it because of the
office he holds. And if I refrain from praying with people of false religions,
then that does, in a sense, make me more Catholic than the Pope. If the Pope
sits by idly whilst entire dioceses are bankrupted and entire parishes are
being closed because of lawsuits against the sodomites in the priesthood, and
there is a priest who is fighting for justice to be brought to these predators,
then that priest is more Catholic than the Pope. If the General Instruction for
the Roman Missal forbids liturgical dancing in all forms as inappropriate for
the sanctity of the Mass, and a priest refuses to allow such abominations in
his sanctuary, then he is being more Catholic than the Pope. If a bishop
refuses to give communion to scoundrels like Rudy Giuliani and John Kerry because
of their immoral marital lives and their public support of infanticide, then
that bishop is being more Catholic than the Pope.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;And is that such a bad
thing?&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;At Assisi, John Paul
II of blessed memory committed grave acts of idolatry, worshipped false gods,
and profaned holy places by allowing members of false religions to worship
there. I care not who you are or what your intentions are. That is immoral,
illicit, and contrary to everything in Catholic teaching. John Paul II was
guilty of grave sins when he allowed this to happen. This does not make me
un-Catholic to make these observations, nor does it mean that John Paul II was
not Pope. He certainly was; he just happened to be a very scandalous Pope. This
does not mean that I do not recognise the very real authority the Pope has. I
do not deny the infallibility of the Church or the Pope by making these
observations. I am very quick to point out the most famous infallible decree
that Pope John Paul II gave, that women cannot be priests, which was given in
response to the recent decision of the Anglican sect to lay their unholy hands
on the heads of short-haired women and call them priests. I am thankful for the
dogmatic decree that John Paul II gave us. But make no mistake &amp;#8211; that man was
guilty of grave sins and merely to look them over as if they were unimportant
or inconsequential is a grave error and is a disservice to the Church at large.
He led many people astray with his actions and to this day we have seen the
evil done by those bishops wanting to practise this false &amp;#339;cumenism by
engaging in the rituals of pagan religions.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;Pope Benedict as well is
guilty of such things. Even since becoming Pope, twice he has been to pray with
anti-Christs in synagogues in order to placate them and submit himself to their
unholy wishes. They did not like the fact that the Church prayed for their
conversion, so they demanded that he change the prayer in the Mass on Black
Friday. It does not take a theologian to recognise that something is gravely
wrong here. Since when does the Church make its policies based on the whims of
anti-Christs? I realise that Pope Benedict&amp;#8217;s altered prayer is still Catholic
in its basic substance, but the very idea of consulting anti-Christs for changes
to the Mass is absurd. And it does not make me un-Catholic to make this
observation, nor does it mean that I do not respect the authority of the Pope.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;But none of these
scandalous actions should be entirely surprising to Catholics. Pope Marcellinus
sacrificed to false gods in the fourth century. [The only difference between
that incident and the more recent abominations is that Marcellinus was required
to do a long penance for his sins. Recent Popes have been praised by Catholics
and non-Catholics alike for their sacrileges.] We have seen generations of
corrupt Popes, centuries of simoniac bishops, and two thousand years worth of
unchaste priests. And yet, in every generation there have been those who went
against the common grain in the hierarchy and did what was right. They kept
their vows of chastity, they refused to exploit the poor, and they did not
withhold rebuke from anybody who needed it, the Holy Father included. These
people became known as saints.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;And yes, many of them
probably were more Catholic than the Pope.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/654318662/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Tuesday, April 15, 2008</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/652341357/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/652341357/item/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 17:11:19 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;span&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Agnes Anastasia Hodges&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our new daughter was born at 0045 hours EDT (0445 hours Zulu).&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
Mass: 4 300 grammes&lt;br&gt;
Length: 56 centimetres&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Agnes: Chaste, after the third century virgin-martyr St. Agnes&lt;br&gt;Anastasia: Resurrection, after this most festal time of year, Paschaltide&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We rejoice in the birth of our daughter in this season of the Resurrection. May she, like her namesake of old, be an example of purity to others amidst evil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;O Almighty God, we give thee humble thanks for that thou
hast been graciously pleased to preserve, through the great pain and
peril of child-birth, this woman, thy servant, who desireth now to
offer her praises and thanksgivings unto thee. Grant, we beseech thee,
most merciful Father, that she, through thy help, may faithfully live
according to thy will in this life, and also may be partaker of
everlasting glory in the life to come; through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Amen.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/652341357/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Tuesday, December 11, 2007</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/631767751/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/631767751/item/</guid><pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:31:04 GMT</pubDate><description>

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Domine, doce nos
orare&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Throughout
all the journeys in my life that ultimately led me to the Holy Roman Church,
there is one journey amongst them all that still continues well after my
conversion. This journey traces a long and winding road, starting with my
earliest memories as a child and continuing all the way until this very moment.
Many of my travels to the Church had very clear starting and ending points,
like my reading of the Apostolick Fathers, my one-year stint in an Anglican
Communion, and my struggles with the Marian dogmas. Those journeys have ended.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But
there is one journey that remains a constant in my life. It is, without
exaggeration, the very centre of my being; it is a scope through which I can
view myself at any point in my life. In a way, it is a thermometre that
measures my very vital signs. It is my prayer life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;My
earliest memories of prayer began when I was not even four years old. I was
horribly afraid of the dark, and night lights only made things worse for me.
The half-way illumination of the old acoustic ceiling in my house made all
kinds of ghastly things appear to me. The fear of creatures in the closet or
people underneath my bed frightened me constantly. I would always run to my
parents&amp;#8217; room and beg of them to pray for me.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;My
father always prayed for my brothers and me every night. Once in bed with teeth
brushed, he would lean over me, embrace my shoulder and touch his cheek to
mine, and ask God&amp;#8217;s blessing on me. He did this to each of us individually. I
can still remember the distinct feeling of his whiskers against my face and the
smell of his cologne. But there were some nights where he was not home due to
other business or out-of-town trips. And on those nights, Mother put us to bed
with somewhat less routine than Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;On
many a night such as this, I would summon my mother back to my room for her to
explain to me that everything would be just fine. She would tell me of how
God&amp;#8217;s angels would come to watch over me and protect me. Then she would pray
for my guardian angel to come and comfort me. And it always worked. Within
minutes, my fear would subside, and I would be fast asleep &amp;#8211; safely tucked away
in the arms of my guardian angel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Incidents
like these and the ubiquitous prayers before meals were all I knew of prayer
for some years. When I got older I began to participate in family prayer time
and in prayer at the small Christian school which I attended. I prayed with
childlike faith and was always amazed at the way God seemed to work through
prayer. Though my own private prayer life was not cultivated until I was a
teenager, I was always comfortable with the idea of prayer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;With
my teenage years came secondary school, increased academic burdens, and all the
physical and hormonal upheavals that plague young men. My prayer life began to
take on a life all its own, no longer limited to blessings of meals and prayers
of healing for sick members of my extended family. My awareness of my own
sinfulness led me to a prayer life that was mostly confessional in nature, and
prayers that pleaded for God&amp;#8217;s grace in impossible scenarios. Suffice to say,
my prayer life was basically prayer out of necessity and not prayer out of
love.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;With
some maturity and some instruction from my systematic theology teacher, I began
to develop a more balanced prayer life. I tried to spend as much time in
prayers of thanksgiving and adoration as much as I did in confession of sin and
in asking for help. As I did this, I recall my life being blessed immensely. I
felt centred. I felt whole. I felt completed and full of life. Then, at the end
of my final year in secondary school, I went through a typical teenage romance
that, after six weeks, left me heartbroken and lonesome. My prayer life then underwent
a bizarre metamorphosis and became an avenue for self-pity and self-loathing.
My entire body shut down and I retreated into an alienated world of solitude.
Not long after, I ceased praying altogether. I lost weight, I lost contact with
the rest of the world, and I lost the joy of my Christian life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I
know not whether it was merely the lapsing of time or the swift arrival of my
first year of college that awakened me, but whatever it was in God&amp;#8217;s Providence, it brought me
out of the tiny and insignificant world of self and back into the vast and
boundless real world &amp;#8211; a world where I could pray once again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;The
many distractions of college life proved too much for my weak will, however,
and within a matter of months I was back to my prayers out of necessity. &lt;i style=""&gt;Please, dear God, let me pass this test.
Please, I promise never to skip class again, but let me get out of this
assignment. Please, O God, do not let the professor catch me on this one.&lt;/i&gt; I
was, for the most part, an absolute failure when it came to my college studies
and I hated myself for it. Having a father who taught at the same college I
attended meant having a father who was intimately involved in my academic life.
I know that my failures disappointed him beyond belief, and one day he told me
how to pray about school.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I
would like to say that I implemented his prayers and everything turned around
and I got straight A&amp;#8217;s the rest of my college tenure, but that did not happen.
But I did find myself walking from class to class, silently praying about my
academic ventures. For once in a long time, prayer became proactive instead of
reactive, and I did begin to take my studies more seriously. I pulled up my
grades substantially and was removed from the academic probation list and
placed back on the good standing list.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Around
the same time, I began taking quite an interest in mind-altering chemicals. The
deeper I went into that lifestyle, the more my prayer life continued to wane.
Still, I was able to keep my grades above par for the remainder of my college
years. Unlike many of my peers, I still ended up being graduated in four years,
even in the face of my rapidly developing dangerous drug habit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;My
life was mostly a roller-coaster of events for the next several years, with
prayer being mostly an afterthought.&lt;span style=""&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;As
I slowly grew up and began to leave behind my more destructive habits, prayer
suddenly found its way back into my life. By the time my prayer life was active
again, I began reading the Bible more systematically, and even began praying
more systematically. I began keeping track of the people for whom I prayed the
most often, and kept a record of prayer requests on a piece of paper. My
friends and I began to hold each other accountable in our temptations to drug
use, drunkenness, and other vices. We began praying together, with and for each
other. We grew in maturity and piety and wisdom. I became more regular in my
job performance and began getting along better with my family. For once in a
long time, that wholeness came back to me. I felt alive again.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;This
has always stood out to me throughout my whole life; prayer seems to highlight
my life at every pass. Whenever I became comfortable, I left my prayer life to
stagnate. But as soon as I was in trouble, I knew I had to pray. I knew that my
life had gotten especially bad at one point when I realised that I had not
prayed on my own in a very long time. I said my prayers before meals and the
prayers at church, but I myself had not prayed on my own in longer than I could
remember.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;As
I was driving down a rural route in north Georgia one day, I saw a Baptist church
that had a sign out front. But it did not have any clever one-liners or jokes about
why you should visit there. It only said one word: &lt;i style=""&gt;Pray.&lt;/i&gt; It occurred to me how much that sign bothered me. Why was it
there? Why could I not pray? When I got home and got on my knees, my life began
to change for the better. Since then, I have seen many of these up-and-down
cycles. As I get older, the dips don&amp;#8217;t go as low as they used to, but they are
still there. And no matter where I am or what I am doing, my devotion to prayer
is and has always been the cause and effect of my growth as a Christian.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Somebody
recently asked me how being Catholic has helped my devotional life. And that is
not something about which I do a lot of talking. But it is true that perhaps
nothing has changed so drastically in my life as my devotional life. Why have I
not written about this before? Maybe because apologetics is so much more
exciting. But even the most deft and diligent of apologists will be forced to
admit that prayer is the most effective weapon a Catholic has for the
conversion of sinners. As one great saint once said, &amp;#8220;I would rather have ten
nuns praying than an hundred priests preaching.&amp;#8221; Conversion of heart is, after
all, the work of the Holy Ghost.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;So
to take a break from my usual apologetics, allow me to answer the question
recently posed to me. Below I will try to outline some of the many facets of
Catholic prayer and mention a few of the more significant impacts of the
Catholic faith on my prayer life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Catholics, prayer is corporate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; When we pray the Our Father, even alone,
do we not begin by saying Our Father? When we pray, we are joined with all the
saints in prayer. When we pray, we become united with the whole Church and with
Christ Himself. Whether we go to assist at Mass, pray a novena, pray the
Rosary, pray for the faithful departed, whatever we do, we do not do it alone.
Praying inside of an old Catholic
 Church is a constant
reminder of the host of angels and saints who are protecting us and praying
with us at all times.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Catholics, spoken prayer is formal.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; Talking to the Almighty is a pretty big
deal, and if you have any intent on speaking to Him in public, it is a good
idea to think about what you are going to say ahead of time. Catholics use
prayer cards and missals and devotional books and many other things to make
spoken prayer more fulfilling and proper. Since praying off the cuff is not
always the easiest for me to do, prayer cards are of infinite value to me. When
the soul is greatly distressed, reading my prayers is very comforting. Not
having to think about the words I am using is very relieving as is knowing that
I can pray without distraction. Knowing that the words have already been well
chosen by a saint is a great comfort as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For
most people learning how to pray requires learning from the masters, and prayer
cards and devotional books are precisely the way to do that. I teach my own children
how to pray the same way. A friend confessed to me recently that he found
prayer in public to be difficult and awkward and that he preferred not to do it
at all. The problem was that he would be asked to pray by somebody else and to
turn down the request appeared impious. I told him that if ever he finds
himself in such a situation again, that he should pray the Our Father. Nobody
would ever claim that it was a bad prayer or that one who prayed it did a poor
job.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Catholics, mental prayer is equally
important.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; Mental prayer
is something that is very unique in that it does not seem to be prayer in the
proper sense of the word. Whilst holy cards and prayer books aid us in our
spoken prayers, meditations guide us in our mental prayers. This is not to say
that mental prayer is not structured. It certainly can be, depending on the
method used, but it does not have to be. Mental prayer is the practise of
filling one&amp;#8217;s mind with things pertaining to God&amp;#8217;s goodness, His graces, His
attributes, or even His wrath and then giving Him the appropriate acts of
contrition, humility, love, devotion, and hope. In this sense, mental prayer is
very informal; it is the overflowing of the affections of one&amp;#8217;s soul to God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Mental
prayer and meditation are primarily Catholic devotions. I have never seen
mental prayer advocated by any Protestant minister or even discussed in
Protestant circles. Catholic meditation should not be confused with
transcendental meditation. It is precisely the opposite of the meditation of
the Eastern religions in that its purpose is to fill the mind rather than to
empty it. If the mind is full of godly things, it recoils at those things that
are evil. But if the mind is emptied, it &amp;#8211; like any vacuum &amp;#8211; readily accepts
anything put in its reach.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Catholics, life is prayer.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; From the time you rise till the time you
rest, every action is done as an offering to God. Every piece of suffering,
labour, or work is offered up to God in union with Christ&amp;#8217;s passion to share in
His sufferings. A strong prayer life involves reparation for the sins of
others, taking every bit of pain and discomfort with joy, knowing that our sufferings
and penances can lighten the burdens of others. When prayer is seen in this
light, it becomes natural and our attitude changes drastically toward the
various little inconveniences that are thrown in our path.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;For Catholics, prayer is life.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; Trying to live without prayer is like
trying to live without breath. When we pray, we become what God intended for us
to be. Like I have learnt in my own life, when I pray, I am truly made alive.
In the Aristotelian understanding of being, a man is truly a man only when he
prays. For Catholics, prayer is not just how we talk to God when we need
something; a prayer is there for everything we do. Getting ready to drive? Pray
the motorist&amp;#8217;s prayer. Just finish driving? Pray the prayer of thanksgiving for
a safe arrival. Getting ready to eat? Pray the blessing before meals. Just
finish eating? Pray the thanksgiving after meals. Going to bed? Waking up? Have
insomnia? Whatever the case is, the Catholic Church has provided a prayer for
you. Learning the many prayers for all these instances makes prayer as natural
as breathing itself. There comes a point when prayer becomes the natural
response to just about anything.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I
do not pretend that Catholics have a monopoly on prayer. Certainly they do not.
I have been praying my whole life, and I believe that God was watching over me and
answering my prayers the whole time. And after many prayers to lead me to the
truth, I believe He answered them in leading me to the Church He founded
centuries ago. And I fully anticipate to continue this journey of prayer until
my life&amp;#8217;s end &lt;i style=""&gt;and beyond&lt;/i&gt; (no, my
Protestant readers, I do not intend to give up the practise of prayer solely
because I may pass on to the next life).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/631767751/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Wednesday, October 10, 2007</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/620796424/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/620796424/item/</guid><pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:25:43 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: left;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 16pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Ut
observetis eos qui dissensiones et offendicula pr&amp;#230;ter doctrinam quam vos
didicistis faciunt et declinate ab illis&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I
have steered away from doing any sort of polemical posts in the recent past.
Frankly, I am tired of the same old worn-out arguments and the same old
worn-out responses. But there is something I would like to address here on my
dying website regarding the exclusive claims of the Catholic Church which seem
to offend so many people.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;In
many recent discussions I have had, both in person and over the internet, there
seems to be a recurring theme amongst many Protestants regarding the claims of
the Catholic Church. Many Protestants I know would call themselves Catholics.
They believe in the saving powers of Baptism and the Eucharist, they love Mary
the Mother of God, they reverence icons, and they invoke the departed saints in
prayer. But they remain, for whatever reason, members of Protestant churches.
Sometimes they are high-church Anglicans, sometimes Presbyterians, and other
times various flavours of independent Reformed. They believe that it is truly
enough to believe all the right doctrines of the historic Church to call
oneself Catholic. Some would not even require that much, and merely wish to be
called Catholic simply because they think that whilst the title may not
currently be applied to them by most outsiders, that it nevertheless ought to
apply to them. I hear these kinds of remarks all the time:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8220;I am catholic, but I&amp;#8217;m not Roman
Catholic.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;My
response to this is usually, &amp;#8220;Oh, you are a Ruthenian Catholic? Byzantine
Catholic? Maronite? Meklite?&amp;#8221; To which I usually get a puzzled face and some
explanation about how &amp;#8220;catholic&amp;#8221; means &amp;#8220;universal&amp;#8221; and since they consider
themselves part of the universal Church, somehow they must be Catholic as well.
It does not ever seem to matter that there are certain things that Catholics
have always believed or done &amp;#8211; they seem to expect the title regardless.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;This
is also a common one:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8220;The Roman Catholic Church cannot be
catholic because it is merely the church of Rome. True catholicity is about
unity in diversity.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;The
term &lt;i style=""&gt;catholicity&lt;/i&gt;, when used by most
Protestants, is one of my biggest pet peeves. It gets thrown around like some
kind of power-word that is supposed to invoke all the right feelings in Protestants
about the grand unity of the multi-denominational Brahman. But that particular
annoyance aside, this remains one of the more annoying claims. The term &lt;i style=""&gt;Roman Catholic Church&lt;/i&gt; is a rather recent
affectation of the more proper term &lt;i style=""&gt;Catholic
Church&lt;/i&gt;. When used properly, the &lt;i style=""&gt;Roman&lt;/i&gt;
simply refers to the one thing that has united Catholics for two millennia:
communion with the Bishop of Rome. But communion with the Bishop of Rome does
not mean part of the church of Rome. The diocese of Rome includes only the faithful within a
small geographic area of the world. Those in communion with the Bishop of Rome
include some 2,582 other dioceses, none of which are the particular church of
Rome.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;In
short, the argument is that Roman Catholics are not Catholic because communion
with the Bishop of Rome is required for membership in the Roman Catholic
Church. This is like saying that Americans are not really Americans since their
President is in Washington,
 D.C. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But
the &amp;#8220;unity in diversity&amp;#8221; is a little strange to me. Since when are Catholics
not a diverse group? Within Catholicism, there are some twenty-three different
liturgical rites, thousands of religious orders, and even more lay apostolates,
including hospitals, charities, and other various parish ministries. What more
could one expect in terms of diversity?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Maybe
they mean diversity in belief. In that case, I am sad to say that Catholics are
just as diverse as Protestants. But in the sense of what Catholics ought to
believe, there is certainly not the diversity of belief that is permitted to
exist in Protestant communities. But this is where I begin to get confused.
What is the point in wanting to call yourself Catholic when Catholics have
historically been known by a certain beliefs and practises? Why bother wanting
to associate yourself with a certain set of beliefs when you are at odds with
that very set of beliefs?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;It
is as if people have this idea that the Catholic Church somehow hijacked the
name Catholic from all the Bible-believing Christians because we all know deep
down that the &lt;i style=""&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; Catholics are the
Protestants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Many
of them argue against the Catholic Church saying that the one problem they have
with the Catholic Church is that it exclusively claims to be the Church. To
them, this is arrogant, uncompassionate, and does not promote the unity of the
Church. It is then that I hear this whopper:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8220;You are still a Protestant. Your
conversion to the Roman Catholic Church was the most Protestant thing you have
ever done. You did not change your religion, just your denomination.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;This
one never ceases to amaze me. I first heard it over at reformed(anythingbut)catholicism.com
about a year ago. I thought it was strange then and I still found it strange as
of a few days ago. I still hear it from friends and online acquaintances. Then,
it dawned on me: to a Protestant, the words &amp;#8220;Catholic&amp;#8221; and &amp;#8220;Protestant&amp;#8221; mean
something drastically different from what they mean to a Catholic. If I were to
venture a guess as to how those words are defined by Protestants, here is what
they would be:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Catholic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;: 1.&lt;i&gt; n.&lt;/i&gt;, (from the Greek &lt;i&gt;katholos&lt;/i&gt;, universal) a person
who holds to a system of beliefs where all of the possible theological
positions in the world are accepted as potentially correct, with the exception of
the belief that there is an exclusive set of teachings belonging to One, Holy,
Catholic, and Apostolic Church. &lt;i&gt;Ex.&lt;/i&gt;: &amp;#8220;A true catholic accepts the
universality and merit of all Christian religions, and is not a schismatic by
claiming exclusivity in one Church.&amp;#8221; 2. &lt;i style=""&gt;adj.&lt;/i&gt;
that which does not claim to be exclusive, but rather admits to being only one
amongst many equally valid possibilities.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Protestant&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;: 1. &lt;i&gt;n.&lt;/i&gt;, a person who makes rational decisions
based on a particular set of presuppositions that he holds, and who holds his
convictions seriously and unwaveringly; anyone capable of forming an opinion
and truly believing it. &lt;i&gt;Ex.&lt;/i&gt;: &amp;#8220;When George became a Roman Catholic, he
used arguments based on the Bible and rational thought and believed strongly
the dogmas of the Catholic Church, thus proving himself to be a Protestant to
the very core.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;If
we accept these definitions, we begin to understand why Protestants make the
statements they do about Catholic converts. With these definitions, the
following things become &amp;#8220;Protestant&amp;#8221;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Seriously believing the claims of one&amp;#8217;s religion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Use of any form of reason to justify or explain
     one&amp;#8217;s conversion&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;A belief that the Bible is infallible&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;And
then, all of the following things become &amp;#8220;Catholic&amp;#8221;:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul style="margin-top: 0in;" type="disc"&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Believing that all Christian religions have some
     truth and some error&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Refusal to make any dogmatic statements&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 6pt; margin-bottom: 6pt; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Calling anyone who believes in the visible unity
     of One, Holy Catholic, and Apostolic
      Church a schismatic&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Now
it all makes sense why I hear these claims from Protestants; they truly believe
that they are truly Catholic and I am still a Protestant.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But
I want to shift gears briefly and talk specifically regarding those who believe
in all of the historic Catholic doctrines, like the priesthood, the episcopacy,
the Sacraments, the Marian dogmas, &amp;amp;c. but still think that it is
acceptable to be in a Protestant community.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;First
of all where does this kind of ecclesiology exist in the Fathers? What is
Catholic about refusing to be a part of the visible Catholic Church in
communion with the Bishop of Rome? Where in the medieval councils and saints, where
many of the Marian and Sacramental dogmas were defined or expounded, do we find
this kind of ecclesiology that says that schism is not really an important
issue any more?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;The
very idea of the Catholic Church existing without visible communion amongst the
bishops is entirely foreign to the entire history of the Church. What good does
it do to accept the Immaculate Conception of the Theotokos, the Sacrifice of
the Mass, and the necessity of the Episcopate if you are then going to reject
the Church&amp;#8217;s teachings on the necessity of communion with the Catholic Church?
The high-church Anglicans have the Branch Theory to account for their aberrant
ecclesiology, claiming that they hold to the historic Catholic faith and that
that makes them a valid branch of the Church. But this very concept itself is
an innovation of the Reformation. It is rejected by the Catholic Church, the
Eastern Orthodox church, and the Coptic church. The only folks ever to believe
in such a notion were the Anglicans, and that makes them at odds with the
historic Catholic faith that they claim to be preserving.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;What
is the common thread amongst all these groups thus far mentioned? They all like
to pick and choose the portions of the Apostolick Deposit they accept. Some
accept none of it but the Divinity of Christ. Some accept all of it but the
requirement for visible unity. Either way, the Catholic faith is an
all-or-nothing religion. You cannot claim to be Catholic and only accept part
of what that Catholic Church teaches. That simply is not Catholicism. It is an
invention, a fabrication, an illusion. So then, along similar veins, I hear
this objection:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&amp;#8220;The only bad thing about the Catholic
Church is its exclusive claim regarding the Church. They are just one part of
the whole Catholic Church. We Protestants do not claim exclusivity and neither
should they.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;I
liken this problem to the objection that the various strands of liberals apply
to Christianity. I hear conversations like this all the time:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Agnostic,
Hindoo, or PCUSA/ECUSA clergypersonette: &amp;#8220;The problem that I have with mainstream
Christianity is that it claims exclusivity. It actually is just one road of
many to attain to the afterlife. Jesus was just a great prophet whose teachings
should be revered but he himself should not be worshipped.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Christian:
&amp;#8220;If Christianity is in any wise true, it is the only way, and if it is merely
one way among many, then it is no way at all. Jesus could not have been merely
a good man and said what He said. He must have been the Son of God. If He was
not who He claimed to be, then He was either a liar or a lunatic.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Here
is a parallel conversation:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Member
of the Western Branch of American Reformed Presbo-Lutheranism: &amp;#8220;The problem
that I have with Catholicism is that it claims exclusivity. It actually is just
one denomination of many to attain to eternal life in Heaven. The Church is
just another human institution whose teachings should be respected but the
Church herself should not be considered infallible.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Catholic:
&amp;#8220;If the Catholic faith is in any wise true, it is the only way, and if it is
merely one way among many, then it is no way at all. The Church cannot be
merely a human institution and claim what She claims. She must be the Mystical
Bride of Christ or a bunch of liars and thieves on a demonic mission.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;So
allow me now to tie all of this back together with the title of the post. What
does St.
  Paul demand in his epistle to the Romans?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0.5in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Now I beseech you, brethren, to mark them who make dissensions and
offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned, and avoid them. &amp;#8211;
Romans XVI:xvii&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;When
the Catholic Church actually follows through with this command, She is attacked
by Protestants as schismatic and arrogant. The Catholic Church proclaims a
dogma and says that the faithful are to believe it or be anathema, and the
Protestant recoils in horror. But then the Protestant claims that the Mormons
and Jehovah&amp;#8217;s Witnesses are &amp;#8220;not Christian&amp;#8221; because they do not believe in the
dogma of the Trinity. Why this inconsistency?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;When
the Protestants began teaching aberrant doctrines at the outset of the
Reformation, how exactly should have the Catholic Church responded to them? The
Protestants were, by their own admission in many cases, teaching things that
were never believed before in the history of the Church. They were teaching
things that were contrary to the doctrines which had been passed down in the
Church. The Scriptures say that such men are to marked and avoided. But such
behaviour is considered schismatic by the Protestants.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;St. Paul&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt; commanded this very &amp;#8220;all-or-nothing&amp;#8221;
approach to the Catholic faith that is condemned by the Protestants. If one
were to split from the Church, he is to be rejected. If one teaches contrary to
the Church, he is to be avoided. You are either for it or you are against it.
This is where the &amp;#338;cumenical Councils have fulfilled this task: to establish
right doctrine and reject false doctrine. They draw the lines in the sand &amp;#8211; are
you in or are you out?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Either
the Catholic Church is who She claims to be, or the Catholic Church is the
grandest and most fraudulent lie ever conceived in the history of the world.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><comments>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/620796424/item/#firstcomment</comments></item><item><title>Wednesday, September 12, 2007</title><link>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/615633390/item/</link><guid>http://mysteriumfidei.xanga.com/615633390/item/</guid><pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:33:13 GMT</pubDate><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;b style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-variant: small-caps;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Preface&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Even since my conversion to the Roman
Catholic Church almost two years ago, I still spend some time at websites
maintained by Protestant laymen and clergy. I do this for multiple reasons.
First of all, I find many of the websites edifying and thought provoking like
that of &lt;a href="http://www.xanga.com/vanwedgeworth/" target="_new"&gt;Steven Wedgeworth&lt;/a&gt;, whose thoughts on biblical parallels are usually
fascinating even if I do disagree with them. Secondly, I find some of them to
be relevant in to-day culture and find them helpful in understanding the
times, like &lt;a href="http://www.dougwils.com/" target="_new"&gt;Rev. Doug Wilson website&lt;/a&gt;. I find what he has to say about these
issues challenging and insightful, even when I disagree. Finally, I visit some
of these websites because I engage in minor apologetics there. And this goes
for the websites in both categories above. In most cases, I am the token
Romanist who contributes. Joshua Gibbs, a reader of Rev. Wilson website addressed an open
letter to me after having read an exchange I had on his website. The original
exchange can be read &lt;a href="http://dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&amp;amp;CategoryID=1&amp;amp;BlogID=4416&amp;amp;Data=3003" target="_new"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and the open letter can be read &lt;a href="http://www.thecedarroom.org/archives/002761.html" target="_new"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;Epistula
Aperta ad Iosue Gibbo Sumus&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Dear
Joshua,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;In
the short time that I have spent reading &lt;a href="http://www.thecedarroom.org/" target="_new"&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic;"&gt;The Cedar Room&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; it has quickly become
one of my favourite websites to visit. Your sense of humour and delightful wit
are a breath of fresh air in a medium that is dominated by mediocrity. On the
internet, poor grammar and vitriolic content get a free pass since English
teachers and editors have no reign therein. To see somebody who takes the art
of writing with any level of seriousness is encouraging; so to read your website is
a blast. Since our first few exchanges on your website, I have found you to be
nothing short of a gentleman and a scholar.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Your
letter was the kindest and most thoughtful letter I have ever
received from anybody who disagreed with me. It was the sanest response I have
ever received from a Protestant. And the content not only resonated within me,
but confirmed some of my own more recent leanings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Your
main point, if I may presume to summarise it, is that the Catholic Church is
made of people, not merely dogmas. And as such, if my only presentation of the
faith is one of dogma and not one that is personal and real, it is somehow
lacking. And with this I cannot agree more strongly. Indeed, many have pondered
over the implications of discussing a flesh-and-blood religion like
Christianity in the context of a disembodied and artificial world like the
world wide web. I remember a Protestant pastor wisely quipped that too many
theological discussions were taking place over the internet instead of over a
beer. When theological discussions are moved away from the people making the
points, people lose sight of the fact that on the other end of the Ethernet
cable is a living, breathing, human being.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;And
this is why I have considered on numerous occasions to give up recreational use
of the internet altogether. I have sometimes considered that I have no real
purpose here beyond my own egotistical ventures. I have seen the internet bring
about good consequences and bad ones alike, and lately I wonder if the good
outweighs the bad. Then again, maybe the bad consequences are just part of life
and the good is to be sought after in spite of them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;One
of the best things I ever did was to take the opportunity to meet some of the
people that I had met through the internet. I spent an evening out in Manhattan with &lt;a href="http://www.xanga.com/dasack/" target="_new"&gt;Dan Sack&lt;/a&gt;,
&lt;a href="http://www.xanga.com/vanwedgeworth/" target="_new"&gt;Steven Wedgeworth&lt;/a&gt; and a few others ?eating fish, talking theology, drinking
beer, and discussing our various perspectives on the Church. Neither did they
become Catholic as a result nor did I become Protestant, but the time spent was
real. Interacting with them since then is very different. I am no longer
putting abstractions in text boxes; I am talking to my friends. And as much as
I disagree with them, I am disagreeing with real people and not merely ideas. I
hope that I will see them in Heaven one day, if for no other reason than to
have an eternity to try to beat Dan at arm wrestling.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;About
three years ago, I met Rev. Wilson in person. It was in Florida at the Family Advance for &lt;a href="http://www.trinvalp.com/" target="_new"&gt;Trinity
Presbyterian Church&lt;/a&gt;. And I do not mean that I saw him, shook his hand, and got
him to autograph my first edition copy of &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Future-Men-Douglas-Wilson/dp/1885767838" target="_new"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;Future
Men&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. He and Nancy graciously came to our villa at the resort, sat on the
porch with me and Sarah and talked with us for several hours. Why is this important?
Because when I talk with Rev. Wilson, he is not a disembodied spirit to me. He
is as real to me as my own family. Perhaps this is still why I, even as a
Romanist, esteem him as highly as I do. As a fellow man, his convictions are
admirable; as a fellow husband and father, his wisdom is invaluable; as a
fellow citizen, his patriotism is respectable. Of all the Protestant clergy
that I know, he clearly has his act together. So when I post on his website to
disagree, I am doing so with a great deal of respect. If this was not evident
in the recent thread, it was not intentional.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;And
perhaps this is why I was so taken aback by his behaviour on the thread in
question. He is generally a fair debater and plays by the rules. When his
opponents do not, he graciously (and rightly) points out their failure to do
so. But to see him break his own rules over and over again was not merely
annoying, it was disappointing; I had expected more of him. There was, in a
very real way, an attempt by me to remove the debate from anything personal and
to focus on his lack of conformity to the accepted rules of debate. True, I do
not argue with him just to argue as you noted. But this was the first time I
had ever seen him so glaringly discard the rules of engagement.*&lt;a style="" href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title="" target="_new"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;!--[endif]--&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But
why get involved in this discussion in the first place? The original post
included rhetorical questions which I intended to address since they
demonstrated a faulty understanding of the Catholic faith. I hoped only to
clear up the confusion. I had not hoped to portray the Catholic faith as
nothing but a list of dogmas to accept. Nevertheless, dogma does play a very
important part in Catholicism over and against Protestantism, which is
anti-dogmatic by its nature. So whilst you are correct that actions are
demanded of us, we are also required to accept the Church doctrinal
teachings.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;But
your point is very powerful. One of the ways I was first introduced to the
ancient faith was through the lives of the Saints. Reading
about the healing gift of St. Bernard of Clairvaux, the mystic devotion of St. John of the Cross, the
piety and love for God of St. Therese de Lisieux, the heroism of St. Alban, and
the ever-bleeding wounds of St. Padre Pio meant far more to me than any of the
theological treatises of St. Thomas de Aquin. To see the lives of the Saints is
to see the face of Christ reflected. And to see Christ indwelt in His Church is
more powerful than any dogmatic statement from a pope or council. What is
revelation but an encounter with the God-Man Himself?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;If
the Catholic Church is presented merely as a set of doctrines, and not as the
Mystical Body of Christ, what is the appeal to somebody who already loves
Christ but is confused about the nature of His Body? This brings me to the
analogy of the father whose children do not recognise him. This is such a splendid
analogy on so many levels because it shows the true nature of the
ecclesiastical dilemmas of Protestantism. The Protestants are our eparated
brethren?according to the Second Vatican Council. Brethren by baptism,
separated because they have rejected the Family, their Papa, their Mother, and
the common table. How does one go about helping such children recognise their
parents?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Birth
certificates and genealogies are no doubt helpful in some cases. But to the
most stubborn, they are only of limited value since they can always be
dismissed. How does a father try to convince his wayward children? How does a
brother try to persuade his kin? The most overwhelmingly Catholic answer is
simple: prayer. Apologetics are good and can help, but conversion of the heart
is only possible through the Holy Ghost. And the Holy Ghost listens to the
desires of His Church. And the Church will only desire the conversion of the
Protestants when they take pity on them and are moved with compassion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;As
for me, I felt a great relief when I found that my fathers in the faith were
the popes, bishops, and priests of days long ago. Going back to your main
thesis, when I found that they were my true ancestors, it made it easy to
accept what they had to say. I was not simply reasoning through the theology; I
was listening to the voice of the Church speak throughout the ages. And when I
saw myself as the outsider, I knew where I needed to go. Yes, some of my older
brothers that had left the family some time back and had convinced me that my
parents were frauds and that I had to wander the world alone with my Bible. Imagine my delight when I found that I was not an orphan at all. But rather when
I was yet a great way off, my Father saw me and was moved with compassion.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Once
again, thank you for your letter. I hope to be able to meet you one day and
share a beer or two as well.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;i style=""&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Pax Christi tecum&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 6pt 0in; text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;Dave
Hodges&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;p class="MsoFootnoteText"&gt;&lt;a style="" href="#_ftnref1" name="_ftn1" title="" target="_new"&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;span style=""&gt;&lt;!--[if !supportFootnotes]--&gt;&lt;span class="MsoFootnoteReference"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: &amp;quot;Times New Roman&amp;quot;;" lang="EN-GB"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;font size="2"&gt;&lt;span lang="EN-GB"&gt;* Rev. Doug Wilson accuses me of being a semi-Pelagian. This is fine
if he thinks so provided he is able to demonstrate this using the
ecclesiastical documents wherein the errors of semi-Pelagianism were defined
and condemned. If he cannot state the Catholic position in a way in which an
orthodox Catholic would agree, then he is not qualified to debate the issue.
This is the standard which he uses when debating his opponents. When his
opponents call him a heretick, he always asks them to provide substantial
evidence and documentation in order to demonstrate in what way he has violated
the Confession. And when they fail to do so, he calls them on the carpet. When
he called me a semi-Pelagian, I asked for documentation. I got none, yet his
accusation persisted and persisted in spite of his failure to do so. He did all
the things that his opponents do that he hates. He made up definitions that
were not found in the Council of Orange and then condemned those teachings as if they
were what the Council condemned. He hailed Augustine as a champion of orthodoxy
to suit his purposes but then ignored the bulk of Augustine teachings that by
his own definition would have made Augustine a semi-Pelagian. He even made a
nice little number chart to prove that I was semi-Pelagian mathematically (but
when taken literally, seemed to contradict his prior assertions). And then
finally, when nothing else worked, he decided to quote an observation of Harold
O. J. Brown as his last great proof of his claims. Surely I do not need to
point out the absurdity in all this.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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